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supportKeymaster
Hi,
the rules about dagpenge are strict, so you can not do anything about it.
You should have signed up at latest 14 days after graduation from bachelor.
The A-kasse can not make exceptions to this rule.
Another thing: Be aware that Union membership is a different thing than A-kasse membership. You (only) need to be member of A-kasse if you want to gain right to dagpenge. However, because you can not earn right as graduate, you need to earn right as wage-earner.
You can find the generel requirements here: https://www.a-kasser.dk/benefits/
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
supportKeymasterHi,
it’s correct that its possible to get free memberhsip if you are under 30 years. However some requirements apply:
- Your education must be of a duration of at least 18 months/3 semestres
- You must have stayed in Denmark right before starting the education. And you must have the right to stay in Denmark after your education.
- You yearly income from work and SU must no exceed DKK 231,864
- You may not get any other kind of public support, other than SU.
So, without knowing your case, it can be that you do not meet all of the above mentioned requirements.
If you can not get free memberhsip, there is no reason to sign up for A-kasse before you have graduated.
Any kind of A-kasse membership is only relevant if you have the right to stay and work full-time in Denmark (when/if you become unemployed).
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
supportKeymasterHi,
work must alway be deducted in the month in which it is performed, regardless of when you get paid.
if your honorar is paid to you as “B-indkomst”, then the the calculation of your working hours and your deduction in unemployment benefits must be made after conversion of your income.
The conversion takes place according to a conversion rate which in 2021 is DKK 251.99.
So if you have agreed a fixed amount which is paid to you after 3 months, you must divide the amount per month with DKK 251.99.
And the result is the hours you must declare on your monthly “dagpengekort/ydelseskort”. You do this in the A-kasse’s online platform.
However, I will recommend you to also contact your A-kasse, to be sure this is the right way to do it. And you should always inform your A-kasse about job.
Any kind of job/earning during a 2-year dagpenge-period will result in a extension of the 2-year period in the end. The extension will be in the ratio 1:2, which means that 1 hour of work gives two hours more dagpenge in the last end.
By this way you can extend your dagpengeperiode with maximum 1 year (1,924 hours), so your total dagpenge-period will be 3 years.
Let me know if you have comments.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
6. maj 2021 kl. 15:45 som svar til: Have been unemployed before and need to earn a new unemployment benefit period #182supportKeymasterHi,
from 1. july 2017 there came new rules into force.
if your (first) unemployment period in CA A-kasse expired before July 1, 2017 then you have to meet the income-requirement if you want to earn a new period with dagpenge.
if your (first) unemployment period in CA A-kasse expired after July 1, 2017, then you will be covered by the new rules, and this means that you can use the employement requirement (beskæftigelseskravet) to earn a new right to dagpenge, but ONLY if you:
- have a current right to dagpenge OR
- have working hours registered on your “beskæftigelseskonto”. You can see if you have registered hours at Jobnet.dk
The employment requirement is only possible if you DO NOT have interrupted A-kasse membership periods. So if you had a period between membership of CA A-kasse and AKA without membership, Then You must meet the normal requirements for “first time” unemployed. This means that you must have been member for 1 year and meet the income-requirement.
But be aware that the income-requirement tell you must have earned DKK 243,996 over the last 3 years in total. But only periods where you have been member of A-kasse can be included in the income-requirement.
Let me know if you have some comments.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
supportKeymasterHi,
1) As an EU-citizen its possible to have up to maximum 3 months Unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”) from your danish A-kasse, while searching for job in another EU-country. Be aware that its a job-search option. This means that you must register as unemployed when arriving in france with the French Unemployment service, and meet the requirements for unemployed in France. However the benefit is paid from your danish A-kasse.
2) I am not fully sure about this. I will recommend you to ask your own A-kasse about this. But because the purpose of the 3-months rule is to find job, i will assume that the period will be terminated before time if you find job, no matter where..
If its still an option to return to Denmark, then it is important that you register (again) as unemployed at Jobnet.dk at latest on the last day of the 3 month period. Otherwise you will only be able to get dagpenge in Denmark again after having worked for 296 hours within 12 weeks.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
4. maj 2021 kl. 13:01 som svar til: Moving to another EU country after “quarantine” period when quitting a job #179supportKeymasterHi,
the requirement is that you must have been unemployed for 4 weeks. This means that you must be registered as unemployed in Jobcenter (at Jobnet.dk) for 4 weeks. Only periods where you are entitled to unemployment benefits (but not necessarily have got them paid out) can be included.
This means that quarantine periods counts towards the 4 weeks.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
supportKeymasterHej,
jeg tror at din A-kasse henviser til at det er en SU-berettiget uddannelse, fordi du netop ikke kan bruge reglen om 6 timer eller 1/3 årsværk. Som jeg læser er din uddannelse på mere end 20 ETCS om året.
Derfor er den regel du skal bruge, retten til at tage uddannelse på under 20 timer om ugen på en ikke SU-berettiget uddannelse. Men da din uddannelse er SU-berettiget som fuldtidsstudie, kan du altså heller ikke bruge 20-timers reglen.
Så både det vi skriver og det den A-kasse skriver er rigtigt.
Hvis du ønsker at vi ser mere på det, skal du bede din A-kasse oplyse hvilken regel det er de henviser til. Altså er det reglen om 6 timer/1/3 årsværk (kan også være på SU-berettigede uddannelser) eller er det 20 timers reglen (kan ikke være på SU-berettigede uddannelser).
Flere A-kasser skriver det samme/tilsvarende som os på deres hjemmesider, så jeg er ret sikker på at “forvirringen” opstår fordi du tror A-kassen afviser med hensyn til 6 timers reglen, men jeg tror altså at de afviser at du kan bruge 20 timers reglen (fordi din uddannelse er en SU-berettiget uddannelse, når den udbydes som fuldtidsstudie).
Håber det giver lidt mere klarhed.
Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
15. april 2021 kl. 13:10 som svar til: Ret til dagpenge ved påbegyndt uddannelse i udlandet og bopælskrav #167supportKeymasterHej,
da du har meldt dig ud af A-kassen efter afslutning af kandidaten i 2019, kan du under ingen omstændigheder få dagpenge på baggrund af din kandidat. Melder man sig ud af A-kasse, mister man desværre alle optjente rettigheder.
Du kunne evt. have fået dagpenge på baggrund af din kandidatuddannelse som du afsluttede i 2019, hvis du på det tidspunkt (senest 2 uger efter dimittering) fik dimittend-status i A-kassen. Har man dimittend-status, har man op til 2 år derefter til at anmode om dagpenge på baggrund af den afsluttede uddannelse. Men som nævnt er det altså ikke aktuelt/en mulighed for dig da du efterfølgende meldte dig ud af A-kasse.
Så du kan altså ikke få dagpenge på baggrund af nogle af dine uddannelser….du må vente til du får et lønnet job, og så optjene dagpengeret på almindelig vis.
Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
supportKeymasterHej,
Jeg kan se under beskrivelsen af uddannelsen (https://www.ug.dk/uddannelser/bachelorogkandidatuddannelser/enkeltfagogdeluddannelserveduni/enkeltfag-og-deluddannelser-syddansk-universitet/paedagogik-paa-deltid-kandidat) at den har ECTS 120.
Dette i sig selv gør at du ikke opfylder de betingelser vi også omtaler, nemlig maksimalt 6 timers undervisning/1/3 studenterårsværk. Dette svarer til 20 ECTS pr. år.
Reglen om mulighed for 6 timers uddannelse om ugen, er også kun til at ajourføre og vedligeholde sine faglige kvalifikationer. Jeg ser din uddannelsen som en ny uddannelse du gennemfører. Det er måske derfor A-kassen giver dig afslag med henvisning til at “det er en uddannelse man kan tage med SU”. Altså A-kassen mener formentlig at der er tale om en helt ny uddannelse, og ikke kun ajourføring/vedligeholdelse af kvalifikationer.
Men det at uddannelsen også evt. udbydes som heltidsundervisning med adgang til SU, er ikke til hinder for at man kan tage den som deltidsuddannelse med ret til dagpenge, HVIS betingelserne herfor er opfyldt. Det mener jeg bare ikke at de er i dit tilfælde.
Ovennævnte fremgår også af Vejledning til bekendtgørelse om rådighed. Se under Kapitel 7 (“Uddannelse”) og især afsnittet “Åben Uddannelse”.
Skriv venligst her i forummet, hvis du har yderligere kommentarer.
Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
14. april 2021 kl. 10:00 som svar til: Ret til dagpenge ved påbegyndt uddannelse i udlandet og bopælskrav #165supportKeymasterHej,
reglen om ret til dagpenge efter uddannelse (“dimittendreglen”) har nogle betingelser som man altid skal opfylde. Ingen A-kasser kan fravige/gøre undtagelser til disse krav. Kravene er:
- Uddannelsen skal være af mindst 18 mdr.s varighed og offentligt anerkendt (SU-berettiget).
- Bopælskrav: man skal have opholdt sig i Danmark umiddelbart inden påbegyndelse af uddannelsen og igen senest 14 dage efter afslutning af uddannelsen. Det er derimod ikke nødvendigt at have bopæl og ophold i Danmark under selve uddannelsen.
Bopælskravet er fastsat i Lov om arbejdsløshedsforsikring §41:
Ret til optagelse som medlem har personer, som har bopæl og ophold her i riget bortset fra Færøerne og Grønland
Færøerne er en del af det danske rige, så på nogle områder er det sidestillet med Danmark, på andre er det ikke. Færøerne regnes altså iflg. §41 ikke for Danmark i denne sammenhæng.
Der er derimod ikke noget krav om et års medlemskab. Man kan få dimittend-dagpenge uden forudgående medlemskab, hvis man opfylder ovennævnte betingelser. Dog får man 1 mdr.’s karens/venteperiode hvis man ikke har været medlem af en A-kasse i mindst 1 år når man er færdig med sin uddannelse.
En afsluttet PhD kan på samme betingelser give ret til dimittend-dagpenge.
Som PhD studerende, hvis du får løn, kan du i stedet optages i A-kasse som lønmodtager og optjene dagpengeret på “almindelige vilkår”. I dette tilfælde kræves der derimod 1 års medlemskab og at du kan opfylde indkomstkravet.
De relevante lovregler findes her:
lov om arbejdsløshedsforsikring m.v. § 41 (bopælskravet) og
Bekendtgørelse om indkomst- og beskæftigelseskravet for ret til dagpenge, §26, stk. 3 (siger at for at kunne få dimittend-dagpenge, skal personen opfylde bopælskravet i §41 skal være opfyldt både før og efter uddannelsen).
Skriv evt. kommentarer her i forummet. Tak.
Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
supportKeymasterHej Lene,
tak for din update, og jeg synes det er godt at I har påklaget afgørelsen.
Ser frem til at høre hvad der sker videre i sagen.Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dksupportKeymasterHi,
if you think you are covered by the withdrawal agreement (I can not guide about that…) then you have the right to 3 months job-search in UK.
In that case I will recommend you to send a complain to your A-kasse. The A-kasse are obliged to send your complain to star.dk. The Public Authority responsible for A-kasser in Denmark).
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
supportKeymasterDear Anders,
That what i am trying to prove that i have been to uk before 31 December that’s why I have been granted limited leave to remain on 4 January,2021 for next 5 years.
If you read my attached document, it clearly states that i have secured my status according to withdrawal agreement and can enjoy the benefits as it was before 31/12/2020.
Only those eu citizens who traveled and stayed even just for 24 hours before 31/12/2020 were entitled to secure their rights and thus got pre settlement status.
Even more, if eu citizens traveled before 31 December they just need to prove residence of 24 hours in last six months and deadline to apply is 30th June, 2021.
For further information please read here:
https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families
Have en good afternoon Sir!
Regards,
Mohsin
supportKeymasterHi,
as mentioned before its out of the scope for us to guide about status according to “Withdrawal agreement”.
But as I see it: You have not traveled into UK before December 31, 2020, and therefor you are not covered. As The European Union writes (see link above):
The Withdrawal Agreement protects those EU citizens lawfully residing in the United Kingdom, and UK nationals lawfully residing in one of the 27 EU Member States at the end of the transition period.
Its, after my opinion, not enough that you have got pre settlement status in UK.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
supportKeymasterHi,
answering of your question – if you can get dagpenge during 3 months job-search in UK (PD U2) depend on whether you are covered by the EU/UK withdrawal Agreement or not.
Persons covered by the EU/UK withdrawal Agreement will keep rights aquired before December 31, 2020. This also includes the right to have dagpenge under jobsearch in UK.
However its out of the scope of our Website to answer if you are covered by the EU/UK withdrawal Agreement. As I read this only applies to citizens who have been covered by the EU rules regarding free movement before the end of the transitional period. In other words:
- Union citizens who exercised their right to reside/lived in the United Kingdom in accordance with Union law before December 31, 2020 and continue to reside there thereafter
- United Kingdom nationals who exercised their right to reside in one of the 27 Member States (for example DK) in accordance with Union law before December 31, 2020 and continue to reside there thereafter.
As mentioned this is out of the scope for us to answer, but I think you are NOT covered by the EU/UK withdrawal Agreement, and therefor do not have right to get dagpenge during jobsearch in UK.
Read more/sources:
- The Withdrawal Agreement
- European Union about Citizens rights after Brexit. https://ec.europa.eu/info/relations-united-kingdom/eu-uk-withdrawal-agreement/citizens-rights_en
- Our own article “A-kasse and dagpengeret efter Brexit” in danish
I think the next step will be to ask your A-kasse, and see if you get the same answer.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk