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Hi,
I understand that you never actually worked in Denmark, but have performed your work for the danish University from a computer at you home in Switzerland.
Accoring to the EU-rules regarding coordination of social security you must as a starting point be insured in the country where you physically work – in your case Switzerland.
There are some special situations/exceptions to this. These situations are where you work in two countries at the same time, are a posted worker or a cross-border worker. But none of these situations apply in your situation.
So, you should have been insured in Switzerland, not in Denmark.
It is not relevant where you have permanent address or pay tax – it is where you physically perform your work that is important in relation to find out in which EU country you must be insured against unemployment.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
1. You need to change status from student to graduate in your A-kasse. This must be done at latest 2 weeks after graduation. You should only register as unemployed (at Jobnet.dk) and apply for Unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”) from the day you want to begin to receive unemployment benefits – this will be the day you return to Denmark.
2. If You by “extra benefits” refer to the higher amount that graduates (without kids) get in the first 3 months then you will still get that.
As newly graduated you have right to 1 year with Unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”). And you have up to two years to use the 1 year period with dagpenge. When you start to get paid (regardless of you wait two months) you will still get the higher amount for the first 3 months.The amounts – DKK 15,081 (applicable in 2025) in the first 3 months/481 hours and a lower amount in month 4-12 – are tied to the period with unemployment benefits – not to the time elapsed since completing your education.
When you have received unemployment benefits for 481 hours, which corresponds to 3 months of full unemployment benefits, your unemployment benefit rate will be reduced.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
If you have a student job but have decided to receive unemployment benefits on graduation terms, you must have both terminated and resigned from your student job before you graduate to avoid a 3-week quarantine.
This is due to the rule about self-inflicted unemployment.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
to be able to answer you we need some more information:
1. Do you perform your work physically in Denmark? Or if you work in both Denmark and Switzerland – then how much of time in each country? (if you work from a computer in Switzerland but for the danish University – then you are considered to work in Switzerland)
2. If you only work in Denmark – then how often do you go home to Switzerland?
3. Are you a posted worker?
4. Are you an EU-citizen?These things are important to know because it can mean that you are covered by EU-regulation regarding social security coordination.
Please answer on this page.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
If you are a third-country citizen and fulfil the conditions for residence as a family member to an EU citizen, you have the same rights to reside and work in Denmark as the EU citizen.
This means that you can meet one of the requirements for being eligible for Unemployment benefits (in Danish: dagpenge) – the availability requirement (you can take any job with one day notice).
For being eligible for dagpenge, you must also meet the other requirements, which you can read about here:
https://www.a-kasser.dk/requirements/Depending of your wifes grounds for residence, your right of residence, or the right of residence of your wife, could be affected if one of you – or you both – receives benefits regulated by the Act on Active Social Policy, such as cash benefits. However Unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”) is NOT covered by the Act on Active Social Policy.
Hence, receiving dagpenge or state study grants (in Danish: SU) does not affect your right to reside in Denmark.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
during the job search stay (normally 3 years) that international students can get after they have completed a higher education in Denmark (according to udlændingelovens § 9 i, stk. 12, jf. § 9 i, stk. 1 og 2 og jf. studiebekendtgørelsen nr. 363 af 30. marts 2023 om meddelelse af opholds- og arbejdstilladelse till studerende, § 5, stk. 2),
the same support requirement applies as during the student stay.This means that a student may not receive public assistance/support during his entire stay in Denmark (the study stay and the 3-year job search stay).
According to SIRI (we have asked them) public support includes not only benefits under the Active Social Policy Act, but also Unemployment benefits from A-kasse (“dagpenge”).
So I am afraid that it would be waste of money for you to pay to A-kasse.
There is not anything you can do to get “dagpenge” as long as you don’t have a permanent residence permit (or is a spouse to someone who have).
Let me know if you have further questions.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
working hours with public support like løntilskud, does not count towards meeting the requirements for dagpenge, and hence it will not be registered on the Beskæftigelseskonto.
It dosent matter if the hours is on the Årsopgørelse.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
you are right about that the A-kasse must set up an employment account (“Beskæftigelseskonto”) for a member who start in a dagpenge period.
Wage hours that are reported to the income register (“Indkomstregistret”) after the latest placement in the unemployment benefit period must be registered in the employment account (“Beskæftigelseskonto”).I can not say why your A-kasse has not registered your work in 2022 on the “Beskæftigelseskonto”. You must ask them. It can be a mistake – we can only recommend you to ask your A-kasse.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
As you already mention your self you have to fulfill the requirements set out by your “Job Center” in your home EU-country. If you have informed your “Job Center” in your home EU-country about that you go to Denmark – and according to the requirements in your home country – can go to another country while receivng unemployment benefits – then it dosent matter if that country is Denmark or another country.
This is stated in some decisions made by the “Ankestyrelsen”, see this decision and also this Guiding opinion from “Ankestyrelsen” (text only in danish).
However you must be aware the your home country “Job Center” according to the rules, must notify the Danish A-kasse of any lack of availability, and if they decide that you dont meet the requirements you will not be able to receive dagpenge from the A-kasse.
The danish A-kasse can also contact the “Job Center” in your home country and find out if you have met the requirements for being available for the labor market in your home country.
You must inform the Jobcenter (register as unemployed at Jobnet.dk) in Denmark at latest on the date when the PDU2 expires.
You can alternatively choose to interrupt your 3-month period and register as unemployed on Jobnet.dk (make yourself available for the labor market in Denmark again), whereby you will be entitled to unemployment benefit (“dagpenge”) from your Danish A-kasse again. In this case however you must agree with the A-kasse whether you can continue to search for job in another EU-country or you must search for job (only/also) in Denmark.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
I think maybe you should also read the guide at borger.dk:
Maternity/paternity benefits.There you can see the same as I say:
As unemployed going on maternity leave you must be eligible for Unemployment benefits before you can get Maternity benefits.
And you can only be eligible for Unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”) if you are member of an A-kasse.KU can not have paid for your A-kasse. I have never heard about that. KU – like other employers – will have to pay some social contributions, and also employees will pay AM-bidrag through their salary payment note. BUT these contributions are not payment for A-kasse membership.
You should not compare A-kasse with your right to have treatment at hospital etc. If you work legally in Denmark, you are covered by the Danish health insurance system.
If you are not member of an A-kasse, you can not get Unemployment benefits.
Hope it helps.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
if it is Copenhagen University as an employer you are talking about, then its not possible that they have paid for A-kasse. All employees pay something called AM-bidrag, but that is not A-kasse.
A-kasse (Unemployment Insurance) is voluntary in Denmark, and it is something the individual must decide if he/she want to pay for.So for me it seems like you are not (and have never been) member of an A-kasse. And even if you had you would not be able to meet the requirement of 1 year membership.
As unemployed going on maternity leave you must be eligible for Unemployment benefits before you can get Maternity benefits.You must be in work or be a member of an A-kasse to be able to receive maternity benefits (“barselsdagpenge”).
So if my understanding of your situation is correct, then you can not get maternit benefits (“barselsdagpenge”).
Let me know if you have further comments.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk
Hi,
I need some more information before I can help you:
1. What do you mean by “member in Danish social security scheme” – Have you been member of a danish A-kasse since 15th of November 2023 ?
2. If Yes, have you transfered member periods from another EU-country’s Unemployment Insurance to the danish A-kasse?
3. Do you have a normal salary at KU?
4. How much is your working time (per week) at KU?Please answer in the forum, and I can try to answer you.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
as long as you dont have worked enough to meet the “working-requirement” of 1924 hours, you will – in case of unemployment – continue in your existing benefit period (“dagpengeperiode”) and with the same amount (sats).
Only when you have worked 1924 hours you can get a new dagpenge period, and in that case also your benefits amount (sats) will be recalculated.
As we have mentioned before there is an opputunity for graduates to have their dagpengesats recalculated if they have at least 3 months of work after graduation. In this case your new dagpengesats will be calculated on basis of the work/income after you finished the education.
Let me know if you have further questions.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHej,
den mulighed for at tage dagpenge med til udlandet i op til 3 måneder relaterer sig til det man kalder EØS-dagpenge – som betyder at man som ledig EU-borger kan tage til et andet EU/EØS land for at søge job og samtidig bevare sine arbejdsløshedsdagpenge fra sit EU-hjemland.
For at kunne det skal man opfylde nogle betingelser. Du kan læse mere her:
https://www.a-kasser.dk/få-dagpenge-under-jobsøgning-i-et-andet-eu-eøs-land/Hvis det er tilfældet at du er arbejdsløs nu og ønsker at komme til Danmark for at søge job, skal du have arbejdsløshedsydelse fra den schweiziske arbejdsløshedskasse. Og det er også hos dem du i første omgang skal søge om det nødvendige dokument (PD U2).
I relation til EØS-dagpenge er det ikke relevant hvor du rent faktisk har din adresse registret under jobsøgningsopholdet.
Du har kun mulighed for at få dagpenge fra en dansk A-kasse umiddelbart efter ankomst til Danmark hvis du har været medlem af en dansk A-kasse indenfor de sidste 5 år.
I modsat fald skal du først arbejde her i Danmark i 296 timer indenfor 3 måneder før du kan overføre optjente rettigheder fra den schweiziske arbejdsløshedskasse til en dansk A-kasse.
Du vil i den situation skulle bruge et PD U1 dokument eller A-kasserne i Danmark og Schweiz har også mulighed for at udveksle oplysningerne elektronisk.Læs mere om overførsel af optjente rettigheder her:
https://www.a-kasser.dk/arbejde-indenfor-eu-eøs/genindmeldelse-i-dansk-a-kasse-ved-tilbagevenden-til-danmark/Lad mig høre hvis du har yderligere spørgsmål.
Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHej,
Der står ingen steder i lovgivningen, at man som ledig skal søge et bestemt antal stillinger. Der er således ikke hjemmel i loven til at kræve et bestemt antal ansøgninger fra ledige.
Reglerne om krav til jobsøgning er fastsat i “Bekendtgørelse om rådighed” § 14.
I vejledningen til denne bekendtgørelse, fremgår da også af vejledningen til § 14 under punktet “Krav til jobsøgning”:
“A-kassen må ikke generelt fastsætte et antal job, medlemmerne skal søge pr. uge eller måned. A-kassen kan konkret vælge at angive et antal job, som et medlem forventes at søge hver uge. Det skal i givet fald ske ud fra en konkret vurdering af medlemmets uddannelse, erhvervserfaring og øvrige kompetencer, sammenholdt med udbuddet af arbejde i det område, medlemmet skal stå til rådighed inden for. Der er således ikke noget krav om, at a-kassen skal vejlede om et konkret antal job pr. uge. A-kassen kan i stedet fx vejlede om, at medlemmet skal søge adskillige eller flere job hver uge.”
Men på den anden side skal en ledig jo stå til rådighed for arbejdsmarkedet – som ledig dagpengemodtager skal man derfor aktivt og kontinuerligt forsøge hurtigst muligt at få et job – og man skal søge, som A-kassen vejleder og som det i øvrigt fremgår af jobplanen.
Af Beskæftigelsesministeriets tilsynspraksis kan man fastslå at det ikke er nok hvis man kun søger 1 job om ugen. Jeg tror den smiley ordning du henviser til er afskaffet. Men da den fandtes var det korrekt at 1,5 jobsøgninger i gennemsnit gav en grøn smiley.
Det er langt fra alle A-kasser der oplyser konkrete krav til antal job der skal søges når man ser rundt på A-kassernes hjemmesider. Det er måske fordi der ikke er lovhjemmel til at kræve det… Men for dem der oplyser det fremgår f.eks.:
– at man skal have søgt mindst 6 job, når man ser 4 uger tilbage,
– at man skal have søgt mindst 2 fuldtidsjob i Danmark om ugen, hvoraf mindst et skal være opslået job,
– at man skal “søge flere job om ugen”.FTFa skriver dog direkte at man “skal søge mindst 2 fuldtidsjob hver uge”.
Du kan altid klage over din A-kasse. Jeg ved ikke om du allerede har prøvet det, men klager du til A-kassen har de pligt til at sende din klage videre til Styrelsen for Arbejdsmarked og Rekruttering (star.dk).
I en klagesag fra september 2023 accepterer Ankestyrelsens Beskæftigelsesudvalg at en A-kasse i “Krav til jobsøgning” skriver:
“Du skal søge mindst syv fuldtidsjobs om måneden. Ansøgningerne skal være spredt over måneden med mindst en ansøgning om ugen. Fire af de syv stillinger skal være opslåede stillinger, de sidste tre må gerne være uopfordrede ansøgninger.”Ankestyrelsen skriver i afgørelsen også i omtale af reglerne:
Medlemmet skal uploade det antal jobansøgninger, som a-kassen har bedt om, i joblog.I afgørelsen mistede klager retten til dagpenge på grund af manglende jobsøgning. I afgørelsen fremgik dog at jobsøgningen afveg væsentligt fra, hvad klager var pålagt af a-kassen
Så det korte af det lange er nok, at selvom der ikke er direkte krav i lovgivningen, så siger retspraksis (som jo også er en gældende retskilde) at en A-kasse godt kan fastsættes krav til antal ansøgninger. Men det skal formentlig være på månedsbasis og kravet skal formentlig administreres således at uvæsentlige afvigelser ikke skal have betydning.
Vi anbefaler at du forsøger at klage over din A-kasse, hvis du mener de stiller for strenge krav. Om du kan klage til andre steder end Star.dk ved jeg ikke.
Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk